not entirly sure what too call this yet. but the balance seams to work.

could u explain the deck strategy?

well lots of draw, warrior return to either draw more or reuse bls. gy gets set up fast debris is for rank 4s or maybe others

maxx c veiler gorz for deffence till new meta is solidified

erm you seem to like d-hero defender a lot.... but diamond dude is alsways better cuz opp dont get free draws
the balance seems to work are you flipping kidding me?!?!?
you dont seem to see the problem here rand.... 3 destiny draws with 2 destiny heros?
also 3 gemini sparks with 2 hero alius? huh?
and you have an absolute zero here and 1 in the side.... um where the hell are the water monsters ¬_¬
and 3 solar recharge and a charge of the light bregade for only 2 lightsworn monsters......
u also have a debris dragon with NO targets except for veiler and maxx c but they r useless on field unless u wanna sync with veiler but looking at your 2 synchros that would be hard and debris dragon cant even summon the 2 synchro monsters cuz debris dragon says the other synchro material cant be lv 4 >.> what u need is 2 card troopers for debris so you can get a black rose dragon
whaaat...the...hell are you thinking rand?!?!?
your not your usual self rand your better than this o.o
and i prefer some spell/trap removers currently the only thing u have is a heavy storm so -jain and +2 ryko and +1 lyla
i would put the 2 maxx c in side and put the 2 super poly in but thats depends if you want more draw or more power...

its hard to believe that actually works without the right amount of monsters to use your spells. true that all your monsters are warrior and that you can use return of the warrior (that last spell .__. i dont know its exactly name) to bring them back and then use the cards again.

i would say -1 d-draw, solar recharge and gemini spark. that seems pretty reasonal since it thins the deck to 40.

and then there is this one question, with only 2 wind monsters and 6 dark monsters, doesnt dark simorgh end up dead most of the times? or are you able to play around him being dead? if it ends up dead most of the times i would replace it for maybe 1 of the 3 spells you just put out (the one you seem to use the most)

im not sure if it helps but i sure hope it does. gl with that

iNubz wrote:

erm you seem to like d-hero defender a lot.... but diamond dude is alsways better cuz opp dont get free draws
the balance seems to work are you flipping kidding me?!?!?
you dont seem to see the problem here rand.... 3 destiny draws with 2 destiny heros?
also 3 gemini sparks with 2 hero alius? huh?
and you have an absolute zero here and 1 in the side.... um where the hell are the water monsters ¬_¬
and 3 solar recharge and a charge of the light bregade for only 2 lightsworn monsters......
u also have a debris dragon with NO targets except for veiler and maxx c but they r useless on field unless u wanna sync with veiler but looking at your 2 synchros that would be hard and debris dragon cant even summon the 2 synchro monsters cuz debris dragon says the other synchro material cant be lv 4 >.> what u need is 2 card troopers for debris so you can get a black rose dragon
whaaat...the...hell are you thinking rand?!?!?
your not your usual self rand your better than this o.o
and i prefer some spell/trap removers currently the only thing u have is a heavy storm so -jain and +2 ryko and +1 lyla
i would put the 2 maxx c in side and put the 2 super poly in but thats depends if you want more draw or more power...

Rand you were drunken xD

The Crocodile wrote:

iNubz wrote:

erm you seem to like d-hero defender a lot.... but diamond dude is alsways better cuz opp dont get free draws
the balance seems to work are you flipping kidding me?!?!?
you dont seem to see the problem here rand.... 3 destiny draws with 2 destiny heros?
also 3 gemini sparks with 2 hero alius? huh?
and you have an absolute zero here and 1 in the side.... um where the hell are the water monsters ¬_¬
and 3 solar recharge and a charge of the light bregade for only 2 lightsworn monsters......
u also have a debris dragon with NO targets except for veiler and maxx c but they r useless on field unless u wanna sync with veiler but looking at your 2 synchros that would be hard and debris dragon cant even summon the 2 synchro monsters cuz debris dragon says the other synchro material cant be lv 4 >.> what u need is 2 card troopers for debris so you can get a black rose dragon
whaaat...the...hell are you thinking rand?!?!?
your not your usual self rand your better than this o.o
and i prefer some spell/trap removers currently the only thing u have is a heavy storm so -jain and +2 ryko and +1 lyla
i would put the 2 maxx c in side and put the 2 super poly in but thats depends if you want more draw or more power...

Rand you were drunken xD

that might be but if you look closely to the deck, the monsters he are using are warrior type monsters. he just attempt to create a build that utilizes the plusses of the deck without any expectations of the monster cards themselves. his main goal is abusing the spell cards he has which are fun in general, but also gives him the chance to create advantages and win with those advantages.

@inubz, you should look more closely at decks like these to understand the concept of all capability's the deck has. i know he has 3 spells and 2 monsters of each of the needed cards, but then again he has 3 return from the warrior (that last spell again .__.) so he comes even with that. im not saying youre wrong, you should just be more open minded to builds like these.

i know i realised he has warrior returning alive (thats what the spell is called) but theres only 3 of them and he has too many spells for those 3 its not like he has cards that reuses spells... and honestly what are the odds of draws 1 destiny hero defender and 1 destiny draw out of a 40 card deck (5/40) destiny draw WILL be dead most of the times as will solar recharge

you forget that they are monsters as well, they can be summoned and played on their own. those spells can be bluffed with and can force mst's which makes you more secure of what your opponents has. dont forget that avarice can return 5 monsters, which pretty much makes the deck consistent enough to play with. as for the alius, they can be searched with e-call and e-call can search into stratos which can search into defender. the deck searches alot so it could work out better then expected from first sight

70-80% of the time it will probably work out well
but if your really unlucky enough that 20-30% can give u say 2 d draw and a solar recharge with alius, sorcerer and simorgh.
deadest hand ever the only thing u can do is summon alius

you may well be lucky to not draw such bad draws or draw them when u need them since more = increased chance of getting them but you cant exactly say the DN shuffling system is good... for me most of the time u either get good draws or the shtest draw of all time so...

sim is like never dead as there are xyz that arewind and well with 3 cards to search out stratos he kind of opens up everything the rechargees are the only part that is not testing perfectly and for that i have been thinking of running 2 lyla instead of maxx c. debris was for xyz with defender. sdd/sd are for veiler + gorz.


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3 spark
2 alius
1 stratos
1 rota
2 e call

3 d draw
2 defender
2 e call
1 stratos
1 rota

3 recharge
1 charge
1 rota
1 jain
1 ehrin

and for multiple copys there is return + the shining for stratos reuse for either another neos a or defender

tour guide can also be a wind or a water or a light or a fire... ya its that important. except i never need lights so i dropped that one

also been thinking of droping tourguides for pot of duality alongwith debris and sim.

Life Stream Dragon wrote:

that might be but if you look closely to the deck, the monsters he are using are warrior type monsters. he just attempt to create a build that utilizes the plusses of the deck without any expectations of the monster cards themselves. his main goal is abusing the spell cards he has which are fun in general, but also gives him the chance to create advantages and win with those advantages.

@inubz, you should look more closely at decks like these to understand the concept of all capability's the deck has. i know he has 3 spells and 2 monsters of each of the needed cards, but then again he has 3 return from the warrior (that last spell again .__.) so he comes even with that. im not saying youre wrong, you should just be more open minded to builds like these.

You must have in mind that lets say a Book of Moon instead of a dead D-draw would be much better to blef with in the ST zone...The much draw power he has may be somehow good for the deck search EVEN if he has all materials less than the actual draw cards

As i can see, the only winning conditions of this deck are so bad: 1 BLS, 1 Chaos Sorc, 1 Dark Simorgh, Alius with spark, Gorz, minor number of XYZ, miracle fusion

Take a look, he summons bls, i BoTT him, he cant use warrior returning alive....<.<
same for Chaos sorc
He summons simorgh, i use a smashing, soul taker, dark hole, reborn to summon a big monster, book of moon, and many others that can kill it EASILY, not to mention that i could have a backrow of control traps when he intends to summon it...

He uses about 15 spells in this deck that are draw/search based, and no traps at all (except 3 veiler and maxxc)
So many spells in deck AND WTF SO MANY LVL 4 AND STILL NO SUMMONER MONK?! ARE YOU CRAZY??? O.O
As he has almost only search cards, except the 3 stapples and 3 sparks, the deck has no control

The winning conditions of this deck are minor if you ask me, and i don't see any benefits of having those "more spells than actual materials for them"
The deck could be built much better imo

one decks speed can make up for the defense it lacks. the winning conditions doesnt have to be that high if its easy to pull of with drawing and searching. ofc some defensive cards could be handy but it will slow the deck alot. my aggressive decks doesnt run traps either so i wouldnt recommend any traps for decks that supposed to be fast like these.

yeah but your spells only decks dont run 15 searcher spells or more though