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Genma no Ou Beginner
Posts : 222
| Subject: Sephy-Nor Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:30 pm | |
| This is a deck I created a long time ago, and I've toyed with it for a bit but never really had to change much because it works so well. Getting everything in the grave to summon Sephylon is easy, and the deck can do a few other tricks as well. Grepher - easy way to dump high-level monsters in the grave and do some deck thinning. Darklords Zerato and Superbia - Great targets for Trade-In, Grepher, Dark Creator and Sephylon, good in their own right or with a combo. Gallis - Easy way to mill a monster and do some damage. Merchant - Great mill engine for this deck, adding a useful spell to the hand as well seals the deal Morphing Jar - For when I really need a new hand and have monsters to dump Necro Gardna - a recent addition, they allow me to stop attacks and are easy to mill off Phantom of Chaos - An integral part of the deck, allowing me to copy Norleras, Dark Creator, Zerato... any monster I need Plaguespreader - Put Sephylon on top of my deck for a Norleras, or just make a Synchro Ryko - Another good mill card Sangan - staple Sephylon - Headliner Norleras - Trade-In target, other half of the integral combo The Dark Creator - For when I can't quite summon Norleras. Very easy to go this guy -> Superbia -> Zerato as well. Feather of the Phoenix - Put a milled Sephylon or whatever on top of the deck to draw, or for a gallis mill Allure - With all the darks, integral draw card Charge - Search Ryko, mill stuff Dark Hole - Staple. Saved my ass a few times waiting for Norleras Hand Destruction - an extra discard card, also helping me hurt my opponent's deck if I open into Norleras combos Heavy Storm - Staple, clear the way for an OTK or Norleras Reborn - Staple Trade-In - The deck's main draw engine; plenty of targets and sets up combos. The Extra and side deck are all incidental. The only reason BLS is in there is if I really need him one game; I find he interferes with the deck too much to be beneficial. I'll test suggestions, but ONLY if you justify them.
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barragan2 Beginner
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| Subject: Re: Sephy-Nor Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:40 am | |
| great... well there goes my self asteem... this is beautiful... only suggestion is lavalval chain in extra deck over zenmaister cuz its an auto send to grave or to top of the deck for gallis; seems great for this deck |
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Genma no Ou Beginner
Posts : 222
| Subject: Re: Sephy-Nor Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:49 am | |
| - barragan2 wrote:
- great... well there goes my self esteem... this is beautiful... only suggestion is lavalval chain in extra deck over zenmaister cuz its an auto send to grave or to top of the deck for gallis; seems great for this deck
I hurt your self-esteem? What did I do? Also, I just realized the picture I posted was outdated; I've actually changed the Extra Deck since I made this, including Chain. I'll edit the post and show you. |
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Harper7000 Advanced Duelist
Posts : 554
| Subject: Re: Sephy-Nor Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:43 pm | |
| - barragan2 wrote:
- great... well there goes my self asteem...
lolwut? The deck seems pretty cool. Unfortunately, i have 0 experience with builds such as this, or even Norleas builds, so i can't really suggest anything. Looks fairly solid though. |
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Genma no Ou Beginner
Posts : 222
| Subject: Re: Sephy-Nor Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:46 pm | |
| - Harper7000 wrote:
- barragan2 wrote:
- great... well there goes my self asteem...
lolwut?
The deck seems pretty cool. Unfortunately, i have 0 experience with builds such as this, or even Norleas builds, so i can't really suggest anything. Looks fairly solid though. Norleras Decks tend to be fairly consistent, and crippling. If you go off on the first turn, your opponent starts from nil. You should try a build some time; hell, try mine if you want. |
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barragan2 Beginner
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| Subject: Re: Sephy-Nor Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:20 pm | |
| my self asteem as in its so good... a lot of my "decent" decks look like crap lol |
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Genma no Ou Beginner
Posts : 222
| Subject: Re: Sephy-Nor Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:21 pm | |
| - barragan2 wrote:
- my self asteem as in its so good... a lot of my "decent" decks look like crap lol
Sorry bro... If it makes you feel any better, 9/10 Decks I make usually bust. |
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barragan2 Beginner
Posts : 588
| Subject: Re: Sephy-Nor Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:40 pm | |
| its fine... i still have some awsome decks... like my macronarchgachistallmilltrolldeck (a.k.a. macronarchs with mill disruption[as in not the main win condition] and D.D. scout plane going into gachi gachi with macro cosmos on the field) ill post that l8r tonight i cant access DN with my school computers(stoopid highschool class computers with no flash player) |
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Genma no Ou Beginner
Posts : 222
| Subject: Re: Sephy-Nor Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:23 am | |
| - barragan2 wrote:
- its fine... i still have some awsome decks... like my macronarchgachistallmilltrolldeck (a.k.a. macronarchs with mill disruption[as in not the main win condition] and D.D. scout plane going into gachi gachi with macro cosmos on the field) ill post that l8r tonight i cant access DN with my school computers(stoopid highschool class computers with no flash player)
Haha I remember that.... Glad I'm at University now... |
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The Crocodile ADA Leader
Posts : 2160
| Subject: Re: Sephy-Nor Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:40 pm | |
| Am looking at few of your decks and i stopped at this one
Don't you get bad draws 50% of your duels?
You have 11-15 milling cards there of which only 4 are kinda Draw power, isnt a norlearas deck kind of OTK? To me the deck looks like most of duels with it i would have bad draws as i would lets say draw a bunch of high level monsters, or the lower ones and then i wouldnt get a fast mill of cards, and summoning of my sephy+nor
Can this deck catch up with current meta or is it just a fan-deck |
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Genma no Ou Beginner
Posts : 222
| Subject: Re: Sephy-Nor Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:52 pm | |
| - The Crocodile wrote:
- Am looking at few of your decks and i stopped at this one
Don't you get bad draws 50% of your duels?
You have 11-15 milling cards there of which only 4 are kinda Draw power, isnt a norlearas deck kind of OTK? To me the deck looks like most of duels with it i would have bad draws as i would lets say draw a bunch of high level monsters, or the lower ones and then i wouldnt get a fast mill of cards, and summoning of my sephy+nor
Can this deck catch up with current meta or is it just a fan-deck I designed this very much as a fan deck, and it is a bit hit-and-miss. Dead draws do happen, but the deck has a bit of a toolbox element. That's why I included Synchro and Xyz options to begin with (note: the extra deck now includes Number 22). It gets the Norleras combo off fairly well, and if that happens usually the opponent is going to have some dead draws of their own. Still, it's not something I'd take to a YCS. Stick to casual duels with this. |
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The Crocodile ADA Leader
Posts : 2160
| Subject: Re: Sephy-Nor Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:09 pm | |
| Maybe 3 grapha and 3 armageddon knights would help speeding up that bunch of high level monster milling |
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Genma no Ou Beginner
Posts : 222
| Subject: Re: Sephy-Nor Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:11 pm | |
| - The Crocodile wrote:
- Maybe 3 grapha and 3 armageddon knights would help speeding up that bunch of high level monster milling
3 Grapha? I have no other Dark Worlds in here... |
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The Crocodile ADA Leader
Posts : 2160
| Subject: Re: Sephy-Nor Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:14 pm | |
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Genma no Ou Beginner
Posts : 222
| Subject: Re: Sephy-Nor Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:15 pm | |
| - The Crocodile wrote:
- grepher darnit xD
Lol... |
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The Crocodile ADA Leader
Posts : 2160
| Subject: Re: Sephy-Nor Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:18 pm | |
| Yea just imagine 3 grepher 3 arma 2 gallis for milling + 3 trade in +Ls mill + 2 merchant + allure + hand destruction
Maybe just 1-2 armageddons along with 3 grepher and 2 gallis would be enough then
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Genma no Ou Beginner
Posts : 222
| Subject: Re: Sephy-Nor Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:20 pm | |
| - The Crocodile wrote:
- Yea just imagine 3 grepher 3 arma 2 gallis for milling + 3 trade in +Ls mill + 2 merchant + allure + hand destruction
Maybe just 1-2 armageddons along with 3 grepher and 2 gallis would be enough then
Around the time I was using this most often on DN, Dark World was huge and Card Destruction was unsafe. You certainly could now though. |
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The Crocodile ADA Leader
Posts : 2160
| Subject: Re: Sephy-Nor Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:21 pm | |
| In such a deck, id go for a full 15 spell draw power line up along with 3 grepher 2 armageddon and 2 gallis
And hey houw, remove supperbia, why do you run 3 if you run 1 dark creator, imo 3 dark creator in the deck would be good along with 1 tech superbia
Ill make my build and post here
Edit: Ill just show you what i run, the 15 spell draw power is impossible
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Genma no Ou Beginner
Posts : 222
| Subject: Re: Sephy-Nor Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:34 pm | |
| - The Crocodile wrote:
- In such a deck, id go for a full 15 spell draw power line up along with 3 grepher 2 armageddon and 2 gallis
And hey houw, remove supperbia, why do you run 3 if you run 1 dark creator, imo 3 dark creator in the deck would be good along with 1 tech superbia
Ill make my build and post here Because Superbia is a Sephylon target as well? Dark Creator is a tech instead of a 3rd Sephylon, in case I draw into him too early in the game. Superbia combos with Trade-In without getting wasted, and with Zerato and Sephylon. Dark Creator isn't the focus of the deck, and Superbia does exactly what it needs to do. 15 Spells is, IMO, too many for a Merchant-running deck. 10 is bad enough, and I've had my share of times where all it did was draw me a card. If you go that route, I'm guessing you'll end up doing that nigh-constantly. |
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The Crocodile ADA Leader
Posts : 2160
| Subject: Re: Sephy-Nor Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:13 pm | |
| Posted my deck in a new topic |
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