Lonefire blossom-once per turn tribute 1 plant monster to special summon a plant monster from your deck.
Skill drain-pay 1000 LP.effects of all eff monsters on the field are negated.

can i activate lonefire blossom eff while skill drain is on the field?
i mean,tributing a plant for lonefire is a cost to activate the effect,but if i tribute lonefire itself,is that negated by skill drain?im not sure.

Tributing lonefire is a cost , so it won't be negated since sd doesn't negate cosr
The effect itself activated in graveyard

So its not affected

eh i think lonefire eff will be negated for sure since he cant use his eff when he was summoned by debris too

teise wrote:

eh i think lonefire eff will be negated for sure since he cant use his eff when he was summoned by debris too

Its different since sd only negatee face up cards , mean the card has to be face up , in this case lonfire is not in field when its actvatied

No lonefire eff wont be negate

agree with kod and norton
wont be affected since SD doesnt affect monsters effs which activate in grave
Example: dark world deck has advantage over skill drain since all of its effs rely on sending cards to grave and activating the effs from there

lonefire wont be negated if he targets itself by its effect. if it tributes itself and its send to the grave its effect can apply. let say you have another plant on the field and you tribute that one, u dont get to summon another plant type monster from your deck.

about debris and lonefire. when debris gets lonefire back, debris says its effect are negated. in this sentence lonefire is as good as a normal monster. why's that? its effect isnt stated as an effect that HAVE to target itself. in this way its effect cant be activated and its cost cant be payed.

for example: stardust dragon VS snipe hunter. stardust dragon cant negate the effect of snipe hunter cuz destruction isnt mandatory. it all depends on the dice roll. and as we all know the resolution of a card cant be negated. :

- snipe hunter eff: discard and selects target
- stardust dragon: cant do anything, u dont destroy yet
- snipe hunter resolves: rolls a dice, lands on 2,3,4 or 5
- snipe hunter destroys selected target.

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about debris and lonefire. when debris gets lonefire back, debris says its effect are negated. in this sentence lonefire is as good as a normal monster. why's that? its effect isnt stated as an effect that HAVE to target itself. in this way its effect cant be activated and its cost cant be payed.

for example: stardust dragon VS snipe hunter. stardust dragon cant negate the effect of snipe hunter cuz destruction isnt mandatory. it all depends on the dice roll. and as we all know the resolution of a card cant be negated. :

- snipe hunter eff: discard and selects target
- stardust dragon: cant do anything, u dont destroy yet
- snipe hunter resolves: rolls a dice, lands on 2,3,4 or 5
- snipe hunter destroys selected target.

Debris never once said the monster effect's effect can't be activated. you can tribute dandy, get 2 token, but won't special summon any monster from deck with lonefire summoned by debris. or get card trooper mill 3 card, but the atk stay at 400.

activating mirror force also doesn't destroy any monster.
the monster is destroyed when mirror force resolved.

lastly, lonefire's effect activate on the field, resolve on the field.
what in the graveyard is lonefire when lonefire's effect resolve(if you tribute that lonefire itself).
Debris Dragon will negate it's effect as long as the effect activate on the field.

http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=684077
b4 someone said my source is invalid:
if you accuse pojo as a non-official source, you're free to come up with a better source.

http://www.pojo.biz/board/showpost.php?p=13130602&postcount=7

if it tells not to activate their effect, it'd said:

Corridor of Agony wrote:

Monsters that were Special Summoned from the Main Deck cannot activate their effects, their effects are negated, and they cannot declare an attack, as long as they remain face-up on the field.