Does Genex Undine can just pay cost ( send water monsters to grave ) but not resolve eff ( search for Genex cntroller )... like Swap frog ( just return, not summon ) ??

I think it does... and always can pay cost but not using eff...

But i cant find ruling or st official yet... Then I ask for being sure.

Help me, pro guys ---------- ♠

one of the worst things I was ever told, was that genex undine's cost to send a water monster from deck to grave, to use the effect of adding a genex controller from deck to hand, cant be done if there are no genex controllers in deck, as it'll be considered an illegal activation.

its terrible, but it states that it isn't allowed -_-

The Conversation will be:

- And how do they know u dont have Genex controller?

- They always can ask for checking deck, after u dont add anything.

- And Swap Frog, they dont check your hand after u return him without summon a frog, and nearly all cases u only have that swap frog, so what s the different between them? Why only Swap can just pay cost without eff, but not Undine, or anything else?

- I m not sure ( that s ruling ) ... ♫ (Swap case was written, not undine yet)

Maybe I ll ask Konami ;-D

http://www.kaibacorporation.com/viewtopic.php?id=29238

this was where I asked that same question, as well as if what would happen if Thunder King Rai-Oh was on the field. Their reply; no as it'll be an illegal activation

sorry, if you want you can read it yourself

edit: those are very reasonable questions, but rules are rules I guess

yes kcvds has a terrible potential of cheating ... let go of genex, lets not speak of gladiator beasts XD

and besides activating undine eff with no cost it would make formulanarchs a godlike deck

Thanks, Enrise ! ☼

And this is true: "and besides activating undine eff with no cost it would make formulanarchs a godlike deck "

That s also why i asked. ;-D

HF ♫