number one was put out by some Japanese website that has gotten the banlist before it's released in the past

Banned
Black Luster Soldier : Envoy of the Beginning
Wind-Up Hunter
Sangan
Future Fusion
Monster Reborn

Limited:
Inzektor Dragonfly
Sinister Serpent
Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon
Miracle Fusion
Rekindling

Semi-Limited:
Rescue Rabbit
Inzektor Hornet
Grapha
E-Hero The Shining
Mystical Space Typhoon
Gates of Dark World

Unlimited:
Marshmallon
Summoner Monk
Destiny Draw
Magical Stone Excavation
Primal Seed


number 2 it has scans and everyone thinks it's real and it's been posted everywhere and blah blah blah......here it is
http://ygo5ds.co.cc/


Banned
Brionac, Dragon of The Ice Barrier
Dark Armed Dragon
Card Destruction
Mind Control
Sangan
Wind-up Hunter
Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the beginning
E- Hero Electrum
Monster Reborn

Limited
Rescue Rabbit
Dark Magician of Chaos
Super Polymerization
Inzektor Centipede
Witch of the Black Forest
Ultimate Offering
Solemn Warning

Semi Limited
One For One
E- Emergency Call
Legendary Six Samurai - Shi-En
Gladiator Beast Bestiary

Unlimited
Necro Gardna
Primal Seed
Formula Synchron

all i have to say is you decide if you think it real or fake, don't be suprised at what konami will do, and don't argue.

Banlist 2 seems more legit than ban 1

Brio.. well this guy is the reason of all the loops and otks.. its time it has to be gone..
DAD... i c no reason banning him.. hes much tougher to summon..
Card destrcut.. Major FF for DW is gone..
Mind.. this card is broke.. its a +1 everytime u use it..
sangan.. whats the point of banning him and limiting witch,.. witch is much broken than sangan.. weird..
Hunter.. do i need to explain..
Envoy.. I love dis card but its way broken... he go me sad..
electrum.. no more otks which is good..
Reborn.. 3 calls is enough.. even thogh everyone loves reborn..

LIMITED..

Rabbit.. Dino rabbit less consistency..
DMOC... this guy will be in everyone decks if its true tahts its limited.. its balanced as rebron will be banned..
Super... it broke the law of chains..
Centiped... major searcher is limited.. nt bad..
Witch.. i dont c why she has to come bck..
Ultimate off... stop gadge spamm which is good..
warning... never excpected.. no more broken locks..

Semi..
One for one.. semi limiting this and unlimiting formula suggsests that konami hit synchros too bad last format.. so i think this is worth it..
E.. it wont make much of a differece.. as 2 E wit rota wit stratos is enough searcher..
Shien.. this guy need to be at 1.. six sams will now top if thats the case..
Besatire.. *sigh* more gyszarus spam..

Now IMO i think tour need to be hit.., redmd, ff.. together wit the top list.. it would be much more balancing.. well this is my thought about the banlist.. feel free to discuss

i just dont get why they all speak of banning sangan.....the card didnt do anything, and nobody speaks of restricting TGU, the xyz generator machine <.<

i just hope this is fake and i hope konami is going to let synchros make a comeback....

simply put tgu is making them money it's to be expected that they would ban sangan

yup tgu made them shitloads here in the tcg so they want to make the same off of it in the ocg any list that has tgu at 1 or 0 is full of shit untill its on konamis site. the list with scans is bs I think the guys at ygopro just want the publicity as you cant prove its fake till the shonin is releaced ad they seem to desperately want more members to play their terrable game.

you did not say what the site is and it would be cool if you would tell me???

this banlist is totally fake and gay ...

I like the 1st one, but that damn magazine last year posted the stuff about Glow and Spore... I just hope it's the 1st one...

i think it was something like 2ch.something

ive no idea why witch would be coming back.... dat ting is a broken searcher... even more so than sangan.
banning brio is just gay but i guess its expected...
and why do they only hit centipede? >.> inzektors can still pull of some big sht with dragonfly and hornet at 3 >.<
so i dont particularly like the second banlist
the first one..hmm... well with sinister serpent back discard cost cards are gonna come back now
and heros are back to with destiny draw at 3 although... FF is gone so thats still questionable seeing as heroes dont really use FF in the first place...
but all in all i like the first one better

I bet none of them is legit.

Ageha wrote:

I bet none of them is legit.

I hope, cause it doesn't make much sense.... They killed the Dino Rabbit, hit Zekotorz as well and removed the loop, okay that's okay, sorta... But what about Chaos Dragons and Heroes? Sure Chaos dragons lost DAD and BLS, but looking at that list - Future Fusion is still in the game. Heroes on the other hand didn't got touched, like E-call to 2 is nothing. The idea was that Stratos goes to ban and even miracle gets semi-limit or limit, or at least one of them like in the 1st list. The 1st List was much more balanced in my opinion.

Exactly as L said, they will hit every possible deck except Chaos Dragons and Heroes if the 2nd one is true. Well Chaos Dragons are not that broken but Heroes deserve Stratos ban + emergency call on semi-limited because they are just freaking totally broken. I don't see if they let Stratos on limit and miracle on unlimited how the next format is going to be fun ....

Just take a look:
3 Miracle fusion
Future fusion
3 Super poly
3 Emergency call
1 Strats
+ Loads of alius support cards

I think this deck deserves a total ban: stratos ban, emergency at 1, super poly at 1 and miracle fusion at 1, and future fusion banned, so people never use that deck again

WTH are u peaking on E-Heroes. As far as I am concerned there are a lot more balanced than inzektors and hieratic shit?
The ban list two proves the right: TCG is worried more for their pockets rather than a balanced game:
Returning Witch which has same effects as Sangan but baning Sangan will aloow her price to go up a little bit.
Dark Magician of Chaos is a lot more broken than BLS.
Limiting Warning..that's the most efective defense against XYZ engine.

No wonder a lot of YGO players are quitting this broken game.

We dont really have an effective side card against heroes, but inzektors can be destroyed easily, thats why heroes are more efficient, and thats why placi won all games in GCT if you ask me O.o

DMOC was only broken because you could loop dimension fusion with it BLS is Way more Broken.

but with the new spellcaster archetype well it still remains to be seen summoning it will rly only set up your spellbook plays for the next turn as they all have the restriction of being played once per turn.

Bls can be run in any deck no matter what because tour guide can be run in any deck no matter what and tourguide gives you 4 monsters that can put a light and a dark int he grave even if you have no lights or darks maindecked

that may be tru rand but BLS isnt good in all decks even if it can be played.... because TGU isnt good in all decks....

DMOC...... can still loop with D.D.R. but that would be a -1 each time so.... not as effective
i would say DMOC is more broken than BLS simply cuz DMOC can break quite a few decks with its banishing effect and it lets u recycle a spell when u normal/special it...

TGU can and is good in all decks. unless your running skilldrain there is no reason not to run it. and bls is even good in skilldrain decks if they have the lights to run it. the only reason not to run it is if you dont have room in your extra for a giga briliant or you runnning windups and have to use tgu for setting up other plays

but rand there are plenty of decks that dont use TGU..... chaos dragons may use BLS but no chaos dragons deck has TGU in...
and lets see laval dont use TGU or BLS
fabled doesnt really use TGU (never seen a chaos fabled deck before...)
heroes dont use TGU
fortune ladies...
zombies....
fish....
frogs....
synchron....
spellbook....
spellcaster....
ice barriers....
wetlands....
i could go on but i think i made my point

but the thing is because those deck don't use tgu doesn't change the fact that it can go in there and still be a good choice, also tgu is almost never a dead draw.

Chaos dragons the ones that are good all ALL use TGU the guy who topped who did not use it won becuase it was the frist anyone had seen of the deck and he could not afford TGU but he said in an interview that if he could afford it he would have used it

LAVAL IS OCG they dont have TGU

Fabled absolutly does use it and is a shit deck

what would the reason for zombies not using it they have mezuki and plaguespreader that they could reuse with leviair

Frogs deff use it as an extra sangan

synchron is practialy plants and they have no reason not to use it as tgu plants was the best form of that deck

i used it in spellbook untill it got a better searcher than sangan

ice barriers are not rly a deck

wetlands are also not rly a deck

just cuz you can name a shit ton of old architypes that no one cairs about does not make your point valid

im talking about top tier 1 - 2 decks and they all use tourguide unless its like t.g. drain or hero dran or hero beat. beat does not all use it because they try to otk with 2 rank 4s

TGU is the ultimate splashable card it can literally be used anywhere becuase leviair is so broken and zenmains is so solid an open, and leviathan and acid golem so good at getting over so many different monsters its verry verry stupid not to run.

any discussion not on a competitive level in a BANLIST discussion is kind of pointlist as this is all bout the competitive decks.

ok first point.... um why would zombies use it oO TGU only gets lv 3 FIEND types or did u forget that...... and secondly i agree that all the top tier decks use it but u said that its good in ALL decks which was what i had a problem with...
and yes i agree TGU is stupidly broken and i hope it gets hit in the banlist -__-

SANGAN is a lvl 3 fiend that can and should be run in any deck with monsters under 1500 atk
Tour guide searches out sangan or itsself so you can eitehr search to yoru win condition faster OR Drop an 1800 and reborn somethign banished
Or a 2500 beater
Or a 3000 beater
Or a 2100 Def Popper
Or a Light for Chaos plays
its not about the Fiends its about the xyzing it sets up

AND THAT XYZING is what is good in all decks. yes rabbits so fare are the only ones who can realy abuse it to its full potential but in every other deck a 2500 - 3000 beater that you normal summon with 1 card from your hand that also thins your deck a little bit... why the hell would you not run then anywhere. heros dont cuz they want to normal stratos or alius and then have an empty hand for bubble man

ZOMBIES 2 biggest power cards are Mizuki and Plaguespreader. both of them banish themselvs for your big plays. TOUR GUDIE GETS THEM BACK SO YOU CAN DO IT AGAIN. THERE IS NO REASON NOT TO RUN THIS CARD.

wow, rand and inubz.. cool down a bit here.. no need to agrue lol.. since both agree that tour is broke.. case closed

Ah, Shi En at 2? The possibilities...