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The Crocodile ADA Leader
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| Subject: XYZ monsters Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:50 am | |
| Everybody already knows about the new type of monsters-Exceed/Excess (XYZ-like an abbreviation for excess) - Spoiler:
ABOUT THESE MONSTERS (FROM YGO WIKIA)An Xyz Monster (pronounced ik-seez) is a new type of Monster Card that is colored black. They are stored in the Extra Deck. The card frame is also stylized by having it appear as if one is flying through space with many stars in the frame giving the appearance of one streaking by them and other stars appearing stationary due to relative distance (giving a realistic depiction of moving through space). According to Konami, Xyz Monsters are made of antimatter, and have traveled to our dimension from the other side of a black hole. Instead of a Level, Xyz Monsters have a Rank. This Rank determines the required Levels of the Xyz Materials needed in order to Xyz Summon your Xyz Monster. An Xyz Monster's Rank is depicted by a row of yellow stars in black orbs (as opposed to the yellow stars in red orbs of a monster's Level) that extend outwards from the left-hand side of the card (opposite to where a monster's Level would be depicted), similar to Dark Synchro Monsters.An Xyz Monster's Rank is not its Level. Xyz Monsters do not have levels. Therefore, they cannot be used for Synchro, Ritual, or Xyz Summons. Any effects that would refer to the Level of a monster, such as those of "Gravity Bind", "Level Limit - Area B", "Roulette Barrel", "Star Changer" and even "Burden of the Mighty" cannot be applied to an Xyz Monster under any circumstances. Most Xyz Monsters require you to "detach" (meaning "send to the Graveyard") their Xyz Materials in order for their effects to activate, limiting their effect usage. Some also have negative effects when they have no more Materials attached, so it may be best to use such effects sparingly. In terms of ATK, so far Xyz monsters are not as strong as Ritual, Fusion or Synchro monsters. Few Xyz Monsters have more than 2400 ATK, and currently only one has 3000 ATK. However, Xyz Monsters are easier to summon since they don't need a specific type of monster (like a Tuner) or a Spell Card (such as Ritual Spell Card, "Polymerization" or "Future Fusion"). Thus, there is little restriction in the monsters that can be used as Xyz Materials. LOOK OF THE CARD CARD DISCUSSION!Well, here we will be discussing the current and every new XYZ monster as it comes out. The post will be updated each time we are about to discuss another xyz monster and that will be announced in a post in this topic. For now, tell your general opinion about XYZ monsters, your opinion about them compared to other types of monsters in the extra deck. Do you think they are bad/good and say why.-Empty Space Sea Serpent LevaielAqua/Wind/rank 3 - Quote :
- 2 Level 3 monsters
Once per turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card to target 1 Level 4 or lower banished monster; Special Summon it to your side of the field. This card is simply good for anything that needs to be revived from the banished zone with lvl 4 or lower. The monster's effect is not negated so you may use it. This card is mainly meant for this but, Also if you have a monster with the same level in your hand you can summon it and then XYZ summon another card! And the good thing is, you can use this cards effect up to twice. Bad thing is, it has only 1800 ATK so it wont be able to stay long on the field except if you protect it. Other ideas?
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Masquarade Beginner
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| Subject: Re: XYZ monsters Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:40 am | |
| nice! i love the new look ... and a nice story line lol ... dark hole xD! |
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WilBer Beginner
Posts : 1859
| Subject: Re: XYZ monsters Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:10 pm | |
| gadget + ultimate removal / dark world = easy |
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The Crocodile ADA Leader
Posts : 2160
| Subject: Re: XYZ monsters Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:32 pm | |
| - Quote :
- For now, tell your general opinion about XYZ monsters, your opinion
about them compared to other types of monsters in the extra deck. Do you think they are bad/good and say why. |
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WilBer Beginner
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| Subject: Re: XYZ monsters Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:52 pm | |
| -_- why i have to write essay pfff i think in card discusion i can say anything S: i guess its pretty good , the only problem is we have get 2 card with same lvl ... getting 2 lvl 4 is somehow easy but for another lvl is somehow hard ._.
also the advantage of this shit is no level , mean you can use gravity bind or level limit , also unaffected by burden of the mighty . Also if u get some right combo this guy can be summoned pretty fast .
The matter is synchro is a lot of simpler and faster , also synchro monsters has better effect than this black cards .
So for me synchro > Exceed > Fusion |
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The Crocodile ADA Leader
Posts : 2160
| Subject: Re: XYZ monsters Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:03 pm | |
| yes thats what i meant, not just "theyre good" |
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Staxx Beginner
Posts : 75
| Subject: Re: XYZ monsters Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:52 pm | |
| looks cool, don't get me wrong but I dont think Imma like them. seems like they are running out of ideas so they are pulling crap out their ass. |
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The Crocodile ADA Leader
Posts : 2160
| Subject: Re: XYZ monsters Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:08 pm | |
| Well ive watched 3 episodes of zexal until now, i think its enough to get the xyz and their history, they are cards from another dimension and looks like that spirit monster of yuma needs them to gain his lost memory >.> And in cartoon, "number" monsters (the exceeds with a number) cannot be destroyed unless another number destroys them O.o Well i like the idea of "space" and another dimension ;D The monsters have a nice look in the cartoon and the cards are black with the space effect on them, looks really nice Some exeez are good but some are really trash :/ The xyz are not yet in our games, they dont have a lot of support cards nor cards to summon them very easy like today we summon synchros. Do you remember when synchros first were out? We were like WTF is this, they fuckt up the game with them! And now we LOVE them ;D Ill give these at least a chance |
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redblazer_7 Beginner
Posts : 142
| Subject: Re: XYZ monsters Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:38 am | |
| I'd say they are a nice addition if you have a need for a better monster and all you got is a crappy 3 star on the field, and another in hand, its worth puttin in somma the good ones, cause your not always ready for a synchro. But unless you run alot of a few star lvl's it might not help. For now, it'd probably be best to stick with syncros, but hey they arnt affected by the cards croc listed, so thats a plus. My thoughts? Stick with syncros. |
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The Crocodile ADA Leader
Posts : 2160
| Subject: Re: XYZ monsters Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:13 am | |
| no more comments? people these are new type of monsters, youll need them later O.o |
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Snakedoc(Lord) ADA Leader
Posts : 3095
| Subject: Re: XYZ monsters Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:37 am | |
| i cant comment on something i still havent tried |
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The Crocodile ADA Leader
Posts : 2160
| Subject: Re: XYZ monsters Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:29 pm | |
| did u ever watch ygo zexal xD? |
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Staxx Beginner
Posts : 75
| Subject: Re: XYZ monsters Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:51 pm | |
| not everybody here are yugioh nerds, and watch the show. i think the yugioh shows are really gay. so i wont be able to comment further on this subject til i "get my hands on one." |
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Harper7000 Advanced Duelist
Posts : 554
| Subject: Re: XYZ monsters Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:14 am | |
| They look awesome, the idea is cool, but they're simply not as strong or have as good effects as synchros. Sometimes they're easier to summon than synchros, sometimes not. So it depends. Right now to me it's synchros>fusion>exceed>ritual. It's worth it to use tuners, and you can tune with different levels which is more important than it may seem. Exceeds can be good though, they just don't have a Ron of support yet or any impressive exceed for that matter. 39 is okay and broke with gadgets + offering though |
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The Crocodile ADA Leader
Posts : 2160
| Subject: Re: XYZ monsters Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:50 am | |
| ok updated -Empty Space Sea Serpent Levaiel Aqua/Wind/rank 3 - Quote :
- 2 Level 3 monsters
Once per turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card to target 1 Level 4 or lower banished monster; Special Summon it to your side of the field. This card is simply good for anything that needs to be revived from the banished zone with lvl 4 or lower. The monster's effect is not negated so you may use it. This card is mainly meant for this but, Also if you have a monster with the same level in your hand you can summon it and then XYZ summon another card! And the good thing is, you can use this cards effect up to twice. Bad thing is, it has only 1800 ATK so it wont be able to stay long on the field except if you protect it. Other ideas? |
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Supreme_King Advanced Duelist
Posts : 192
| Subject: Re: XYZ monsters Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:26 pm | |
| In the new Fish RFG deck, this card gonna pwn. Period. |
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The Crocodile ADA Leader
Posts : 2160
| Subject: Re: XYZ monsters Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:42 pm | |
| yep i think more XYZ are meant for that deck, well shark uses that deck in the anime so it must be like that i guess xD |
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death-coder Beginner
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| Subject: Re: XYZ monsters Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:54 pm | |
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Kaiza Article Team
Posts : 1008
| Subject: Re: XYZ monsters Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:34 pm | |
| well, XYZ will come as secondary support to decks in my opinion. They're good, but not too good
also, wasn't it me who gave D-C Ra for his retest ?
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Shablamman Beginner
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| Subject: Re: XYZ monsters Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:16 am | |
| Well the reason why the exceed monster effects are not as impressive as synchro monsters is the fact that they are easy to summon. Plus they don't have alot of support because they just came out. I am very interested in them and can't wait till konami releases the beastly exceed monsters. |
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redblazer_7 Beginner
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| Subject: Re: XYZ monsters Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:21 am | |
| iv tried them, they are good sometimes, splash a few into a deck with synchroes, and youll surprise some people |
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